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Buddhadharma : Spring 2015
48 buddhadharma: the practitioner’s quarterly spring 2015 BuDDhADhARMA: Increasingly, mindfulness is talked about not just as a teaching or prac- tice but as a movement. Is that a fair assess- ment, do you think? don’t realize there’s actual work involved in being present and mindful. But it’s very gratifying for those of us who have been working with both Bud- dhist training and secular paths to see this influx of people from all walks of life. BARRy BOyCE: Four years ago, the Shambhala Sun Foundation started a website, mindful.org, and shortly thereafter the Foundation for a Mindful Soci- ety was founded to take over the website and launch Mindful magazine in response to all the interest we were seeing in what some people call “secular mind- fulness.” That interest continues unabated; in fact, it’s exploding, particularly in the workplace—and by “workplace” I mean not just schools and hospitals but even, controversially, the military and police. There’s a great deal of stress, confusion, and diffi- culty in the world, and the benefits of mindfulness in helping alleviate these problems is being widely dis- cussed across mainstream media, so people want to know more. It’s become quite a phenomenon. BuDDhADhARMA: Mindfulness can mean different things to different people. How is the word “mind- fulness” understood in a non-Buddhist context as compared to a Buddhist one? MELISSA MyOZEN BLACKER: I worked with Jon as well, perhaps ten years later than Trudy, in that same basement, and I remember him creating a beautiful working definition of mindfulness, which was about BArry Boyce is editor-in-chief of Mindful magazine and editor of The Mindfulness Revolution andIntheFaceofFear.heisa longtime Vajrayana practitioner and student of the late chögyam trungpa. meliSSA myoZen BlAcKer is abbot of Boundless way Zen temple. For twenty years, she was a teacher and director of programs at the center for mindfulness, founded by Jon Kabat-Zinn. She is coeditor of The Book of Mu. diAnA winSton is the director of mindfulness education at uclA’s mindful Awareness research center and a member of the teachers’ council at Spirit rock. She is the author of Wide Awake: A Buddhist Guide for Teens and coauthor of Fully Present: The Science, Art, and Practice of Mindfulness. trudy GoodmAn is the execu- tive director and founder of insightlA, which offers training in Vipassana and mindfulness classes, including mBSr and in- service training for health-care professionals. She worked for many years as a mindfulness- based psychotherapist. (lEFT—RIgHT):daviddaeanrynick,lizamattheWs,billleyden,benmarshall DIANA WINSTON: Mindfulness is being adapted by institutions across the U.S.—in schools, health-care settings, and academia—and in many countries around the world. With this expansion, and with all the research being conducted on the benefits of mindfulness, I would definitely call it a movement. TRuDy GOODMAN: It was over thirty years ago, in the basement of the UMass Medical Center, that I worked with Jon Kabat-Zinn in the early days of the Stress Reduction and Relaxation Program, which is what MBSR (Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction) was called then. We chose the phrase “stress reduction” because we thought that people wouldn’t feel stigmatized by learning mindfulness for stress reduction. Everyone experiences stress. It’s been amazing to watch what’s happened from those early days of getting doctor referrals only for those patients who had reached the end of the medical line. Now, many people who have been through the program for a variety of reasons and benefited are referring their friends and loved ones. At this point, I would say mindfulness is going viral. That does complicate things for us in a way, because many see mindfulness as a panacea and